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Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says
Posted on Saturday, April 10 @ 10:52:56 EDT
By Eric Lichtblau and David E. Sanger, New York Times
WASHINGTON, April 9 — President Bush was told more than a month before
the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that supporters of Osama bin Laden
planned an attack within the United States with explosives and wanted
to hijack airplanes, a government official said Friday.
The warning came in a secret briefing that Mr. Bush received at his
ranch in Crawford, Tex., on Aug. 6, 2001. A report by a joint
Congressional committee last year alluded to a "closely held
intelligence report" that month about the threat of an attack by Al
Qaeda, and the official confirmed an account by The Associated Press on
Friday saying that the report was in fact part of the president's
briefing in Crawford.
The disclosure appears to contradict the White House's repeated
assertions that the briefing the president received about the Qaeda
threat was "historical" in nature and that the White House had little
reason to suspect a Qaeda attack within American borders.
Members of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11
attacks have asked the White House to make the Aug. 6 briefing
memorandum public. The A.P. account of it was attributed to "several
people who have seen the memo." The White House has said that nothing
in it pointed specifically to the kind of attacks that actually took
place a month later.
The
Congressional report last year, citing efforts by Al Qaeda operatives
beginning in 1997 to attack American soil, said that operatives
appeared to have a support structure in the United States and that
intelligence officials had "uncorroborated information" that Mr. bin
Laden "wanted to hijack airplanes" to gain the release of imprisoned
extremists. It also said that intelligence officials received
information in May 2001, three months earlier, that indicated "a group
of bin Laden supporters was planning attacks in the United States with
explosives."
Also on Friday, the White House offered evidence that the Federal
Bureau of Investigation received instructions more than two months
before the Sept. 11 attacks to increase its scrutiny of terrorist
suspects inside the United States. But it is unclear what action, if
any, the bureau took in response.
The disclosure appeared to signal an effort by the White House to
distance itself from the F.B.I. in the debate over whether the Bush
administration did enough in the summer of 2001 to deter a possible
terrorist attack in the United States in the face of increased warnings.
A classified memorandum, sent around July 4, 2001, to Condoleezza Rice,
the president's national security adviser, from the counterterrorism
group run by Richard A. Clarke, described a series of steps it said the
White House had taken to put the nation on heightened terrorist alert.
Among the steps, the memorandum said, "all 56 F.B.I. field offices were
also tasked in late June to go to increased surveillance and contact
with informants related to known or suspected terrorists in the United
States."
Parts of the White House memorandum were provided to The New York Times
on Friday by a White House official seeking to bolster the public
account provided a day before by Ms. Rice, who portrayed an
administration aggressively working to deter a domestic terror attack.
But law enforcement officials said Friday that they believed that Ms.
Rice's testimony before the commission investigating the Sept. 11
attacks — including her account of scores of F.B.I. investigations
under way that summer into suspected Qaeda cells operating in the
United States — overstated the scope, thrust and intensity of
activities by the F.B.I. within American borders.
Agents at that time were focused mainly on the threat of overseas
attacks, law enforcement officials said. The F.B.I. was investigating
numerous cases that involved international terrorism and may have had
tangential connections to Al Qaeda, but one official said that despite
Ms. Rice's account, the investigations were focused more overseas and
"were not sleeper cell investigations."
The finger-pointing will probably increase next week when numerous
current and former senior law enforcement officials, including Attorney
General John Ashcroft, testify before the Sept. 11 commission. In an
unusual pre-emptive strike, Mr. Ashcroft's chief spokesman on Friday
accused some Democrats on the commission of having "political axes to
grind" in attacking the attorney general, who oversees the F.B.I., and
unfairly blaming him for law enforcement failures.
A similar accusation against the commission was also leveled by Senator
Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican with ties to the White House, in
a speech on the Senate floor Thursday.
"Sadly, the commission's public hearings have allowed those with
political axes to grind, like Richard Clarke, to play shamelessly to
the partisan gallery of liberal special interests seeking to bring down
the president," Mr. McConnell said.
The charges and countercharges underscored the political challenge that
the investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks has become for President
Bush as he mounts his re-election bid. The White House sought this week
to defuse the situation by allowing Ms. Rice to testify before the
Sept. 11 commission after months of resistance. But her appearance
served to raise new questions about the administration's efforts to
deter an attack.
The White House on Friday put off a decision on declassifying the
document at the center of the debate — the Aug. 6 briefing, titled "Bin
Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." But the
administration appeared ready to release at least portions of the
document publicly in the coming days.
The memo from Mr. Clarke's group in July 2001 about F.B.I. activities
adds another piece of evidence to the document trail, but it is
unlikely to resolve the questions over whether the administration did
enough to deter an attack.
White House officials, who spent several weeks attacking Mr. Clarke's
credibility, said Friday that they believed the memo from his
counterterrorism group was an accurate reflection of steps the White
House took to deter an attack. But they questioned whether the F.B.I.
executed the instructions to intensify its scrutiny of terrorist
suspects and contacts in the United States.
In April 2001, the F.B.I. did send out a classified memo to its field
offices directing agents to "check with their sources on any
information they had relative to terrorism," said a senior law
enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity. But with the
level of threat warnings increasing markedly over the next several
months, there is no indication that any directive went out in the late
June period that was described in the memo from Mr. Clarke's office.
That summer saw a string of alerts by the F.B.I. and other government
agencies about the heightened possibility of a terrorist attack, but
most counterterrorism officials believed an attack would come in Saudi
Arabia, Israel or elsewhere. Many also were worried about a July 4
attack and were relieved when that date passed uneventfully.
For months, the F.B.I. had been consumed by internal problems of its
own, including the arrest of an agent, Robert P. Hanssen, on espionage
charges, the disappearance of documents in the Oklahoma City bombing
case and the fallout over the Wen Ho Lee spy case. Moreover, the bureau
was going through a transition in leadership, with its longtime
director, Louis J. Freeh, retiring in June 2001. He was replaced by an
acting director, Thomas J. Pickard, until the current director, Robert
S. Mueller III, took over in September, just days before the deadly
hijackings. All three men will testify at next week's commission
hearings and are expected to face sharp questioning about whether the
F.B.I. did enough to prevent an attack in the weeks and months before
Sept. 11.
At this week's appearance by Ms. Rice, several commissioners sharply
questioned whether the F.B.I. and the Justice Department had done
enough to act on intelligence warnings about an attack.
"We have done thousands of interviews here at the 9/11 commission,"
said Timothy J. Roemer, a Democratic member of the panel. "We have gone
through literally millions of pieces of paper. To date, we have found
nobody — nobody at the F.B.I. who knows anything about a tasking of
field offices" to identify the domestic threat.
The apparent miscommunication will probably be a central focus of the
commission's hearing next week. Scrutiny is expected to focus in part
on communication breakdowns between the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. that
allowed two of the 19 hijackers to live openly in San Diego despite
intelligence about their terrorist ties.
Another Democratic panel member, Jamie S. Gorelick, said at Thursday's
hearing that Mr. Ashcroft was briefed in the summer of 2001 about
terrorist threats "but there is no evidence of any activity by him."
Such criticism led Mark Corallo, Mr. Ashcroft's chief spokesman at the
Justice Department, to say Friday that "some people on the commission
are seeking to score political points" by unfairly attacking Mr.
Ashcroft's actions before Sept. 11.
"Some have political axes to grind" against Mr. Ashcroft, Mr. Corallo
said in an interview, naming Ms. Gorelick, who was the deputy attorney
general in the Clinton administration; Mr. Roemer, a former congressman
from Indiana, and Richard Ben-Veniste, the former Watergate prosecutor.
While insisting that he was not speaking personally for Mr. Ashcroft,
Mr. Corallo said he was offended by Ms. Gorelick's remarks in
particular. Offering a detailed preview of Mr. Ashcroft's testimony
next week, he said the attorney general was briefed repeatedly by the
C.I.A. and the F.B.I. on threats posed by Al Qaeda and was told that
the threats were directed at targets overseas. "He was not briefed that
there was any threat to the United States," Mr. Corallo said. "He kept
asking if there was any action he needed to take, and he was constantly
told no, you're doing everything you need to do."
Several commission officials denied in interviews that there was any
attempt to treat Mr. Ashcroft unfairly. Al Felzenberg, a spokesman for
panel, said that Mr. Ashcroft would be warmly received.
Ms. Gorelick said she was surprised by Mr. Corallo's comments and
puzzled by assertions that the attorney general had no knowledge of a
domestic terrorist threat in 2001.
"This appears to be a debate within the administration," she said. "On
the one hand, you have Dr. Rice saying that the domestic threat was
being handled by the Justice Department and F.B.I., and on the other
hand, you have the Justice Department saying that there did not appear
to be a domestic threat to address. And that is a difference in view
that we have to continue to explore."
The commission also heard testimony Friday morning behind closed doors from former Vice President Al Gore.
Former President Bill Clinton appeared before the panel in closed
session on Thursday, but a Democratic commission member took issue
Friday with Mr. Clinton's assertion that that there was not enough
intelligence linking Al Qaeda to the 2000 bombing of the Navy destroyer
Cole to justify a military attack on the terrorist organization.
"I think he did have enough proof to take action," Bob Kerrey, the
former senator from Nebraska, said on ABC's `Good Morning America.'
Philip Shenon, Adam Nagourney and James Risen contributed reporting for this article.
Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company
Reprinted from The New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/
04/10/politics/10PANE.html
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by doll190 on Sunday, April 11 @ 10:57:36 EDT (User Info) | Another Democratic panel member, Jamie S. Gorelick,
said at Thursday's hearing that Mr. Ashcroft was
briefed in the summer of 2001 about terrorist threats
"but there is no evidence of any activity by him."
But there is evidence of Ashcroft activity...
he immediately stopped flying commercial planes .
Someone needs to spend thier 10 mintues
question time demading why.
"I think he did have enough proof to take action," Bob Kerrey, the
former senator from Nebraska, said on ABC's `Good Morning America.'
This is from the women and children killing war criminal .
Of course HE thought there was enough "proof"
Shit he didn't need any did he?
He's also so jealous of Bill that at the mere
mention of Clinton, Kerry feels like he'll explode
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by rebus40 on Sunday, April 11 @ 09:21:54 EDT (User Info) | Am
I crazy?....or am I imagining a story that I think has been out for
quiet a while about an FBI agent up in Minnesota or somewhere,
screaming their head off about some suspicious Arabs taking pilot
training there....begging for arrest warrants....only to be reassigned
or demoted?
Am I? |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by elpablo on Sunday, April 11 @ 02:17:58 EDT (User Info) | Frankly,
what bush knew and when he knew it is utterly irrelevant because bush
is not the one making the big decisions. (hell, I'd be suprised if bush
makes ANY decisions) I have to chuckle when ever I read or hear stories
about how bush behaved so "presidential" in cabinet meetings and other
policy meetings. I'm willing to bet the ranch that he does not even
attend cabinet and policy meetings; one of his trainers gives him a
coloring book summary of what was discussed.
Anyway, I must say that as an armchair conspiracy theorist who has been
mocked for talking basically since 9/12/01 about how the official
administration story of 9/11 doesn't add up (not just on line but also
at dinner parties and in the grocery check out line), I'm gratified to
see that an increasing number of the posters on SC are wearing the hand
crafted tin foil easter bonnets I'm giving away. They fit really well,
don't they? |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by turk on Sunday, April 11 @ 00:11:27 EDT (User Info) | It
just doesn't wash. If the threat was perceived to be "overseas," why
did Ashcroft quit flying domestic commercial airliners because of a
"threat assessment." Geez some of these guys are miserable liars even
with the substantial amount of practice they get.
What's up with a Presidential Daily Briefing that's mostly historical.
So, you have a limited amount of time to inform the bogus potus about
what's going on in the world which may be of concern and you take that
opportunity to give him a history lesson. Is that the purpose of the
PDB? Not too likely, unless you prefer to be looking back instead of
looking forward.
Every day they come up with statement that is just not logically plausible. |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by HHH on Saturday, April 10 @ 23:17:38 EDT (User Info) | | I
am an active airline pilot, a captain at a regional airline owned by
USAirways; in our annual security training in July of 2001 I received
no information about increased threats of hijacking and subsequent to
that date until 9/11 heard nothing different either. If the Bush crowd
knew anything about an increased threat they kept it to themselves. |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by binomial_cat on Saturday, April 10 @ 22:20:24 EDT (User Info) | ***While
insisting that he was not speaking personally for Mr. Ashcroft, Mr.
Corallo said he was offended by Ms. Gorelick's remarks in particular.
Offering a detailed preview of Mr. Ashcroft's testimony next week, he
said the attorney general was briefed repeatedly by the C.I.A. and the
F.B.I. on threats posed by Al Qaeda and was told that the threats were
directed at targets overseas. "He was not briefed that there was any
threat to the United States," Mr. Corallo said. "He kept asking if
there was any action he needed to take, and he was constantly told no,
you're doing everything you need to do."***
So how come he stopped taking commercial flights?
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Bush Catches Bass With Crew From TV Show (Score: 1) by Bouttimewegotwise on Saturday, April 10 @ 20:31:28 EDT (User Info) | THE SHEEPLE GAZETTE. 4/10/1812
CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush skipped a scheduled fishing outing
Saturday morning to deal with the Iraq crisis, but his catch the day
before was something to brag about.
"He took the biggest one of the day," a bass nearly four pounds, said
Roland Martin, host of the Outdoor Life Network program, "Fishing with
Roland Martin."
The president and Martin released several big fish they caught Friday but kept the smaller ones for eating.
Bush had planned to spend Saturday with his father, the former
president, and Martin and his crew fishing on the pond at Bush's
Crawford ranch.
Instead, by happenstance Martin, the president and a Secret Service
agent trolled for bass Friday afternoon. They rode in Martin's 21-foot
boat, powered by a 250-horsepower engine, but in the small ranch pond,
they used the boat's outboard trolling engine, Martin said in an
interview with The Associated Press.
"The president was very relaxed," Martin said.
The unexpected Friday footage came as the crew was filming at the pond
and Bush "came motoring down" in his pickup to chat, Martin said. They
discussed the next day's scheduled shoot.
At about 5:30 p.m., Bush looked at his watch and said he had time to
"make a couple casts, so we jumped into the boat real quick."
Iraq didn't come up. "He didn't really talk about politics at all,"
Martin said. "He was just relieved to have a minute to fish."
The TV host said Bush is "a very accomplished fisherman. He handled the
tackle really well and caught three fish," Martin said. "He complains
he doesn't fish there enough; so he misses that a lot."
They floated on the pond for about 1 1/2 hours. White House aides told
Martin that "things were kind of calmed down" in Iraq and that
prospects were good for another session Saturday.
Then Saturday proved a perfect example of what happens when the president's job gets in the way of his hobby, Martin said.
Martin and his crew returned to the ranch at about 6:30 a.m., and Bush was already in conferences in the ranch house.
As Martin and his crew cleaned the boat for another excursion on the pond, Bush's entourage pulled up.
"He said, `Hey, Roland, sorry it didn't work out. I had things to do,'"
Martin recalled. "He really wanted to finish, but he had all his things
to do."
Martin believed that events in Iraq had forced Bush to cancel the
Saturday shoot. "He alluded to it. He said, `I've been busy, all these
crises,'" Martin recalled. Militants on Saturday threatened to kill and
mutilate Thomas Hamill, an American civilian captured in an ambush of a
convoy west of Baghdad.
Still, Bush apparently went bicycling on Saturday. A half-dozen bikes
cruised down a dirt path on the ranch, trailed by a security detail of
open carts and cars; such a motorcade shadows the president when he
jogs there.
Bush has been bicycling more since a painful right knee late last year
forced him to cut back on his usual jogging. The Secret Service (news -
web sites) recently refurbished its fleet of mountain bikes positioned
at the ranch.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan confirmed that Bush had fished
with Martin on Friday evening. "They were scheduled to do some further
taping (Saturday) morning, but the president had to cancel because he
needed to meet with his national security adviser and National Security
Council to address events in Iraq," McClellan said.
Martin said he was disappointed he had lost the fishing time with Bush
Saturday, because Bush's father had planned to join them.
The fishing commentator said he has long known the family and previously fished with the first President Bush.
But he said he was mystified as to how the face time with the current president had come about.
Officials at the Outdoor Life Network said the White House had approached them.
Bush has been courting the millions of voters who fish and hunt.
Martin's crew also filmed on the ranch Wednesday, again bumping into the president.
Bush had walked to the pond that day, "dropped a line and caught a nice
crappie, about a pound and a half, and let (Bush's Scottish terrier)
Barney sniff at it a little bit," Martin said.
The administration is sensitive to charges Bush is loafing at a time of
chaos and bloodshed in Iraq. He is spending a week at the ranch, with
no public appearances between Tuesday and Sunday.
The White House released a photo of Bush meeting with his national security team Saturday.
McClellan said Bush had spoken with Gen. John Abizaid, head of U.S.
Central Command, and Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq.
The White House took photos of Bush fishing with the Outdoor Life Network crew, but did not release them publicly.
The Outdoor Life Network will air the program in August, Martin said.
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by immigrant on Saturday, April 10 @ 20:16:40 EDT (User Info) | [I]ntelligence
officials had "uncorroborated information" that Mr. bin Laden "wanted
to hijack airplanes" to gain the release of imprisoned extremists."
OK. Notice the quotation marks are around "wanted to hijack airplanes"
suggesting a specific source of those words. And notice none around the
"release of imprisoned extremists"--not suprising: hardly likely
Al-Qaida would call them that, so these words are somebody's
assumption, probably somebody in the administration.
This stuff going around really gets up my nose. This is 2001, not the
late 50s-early 60s when any idiot could get on an American airliner and
say, "I've got a bomb; fly me to Cuba," and he was flown to Cuba. Nor
is it the late '60s-70s when the PFLP and then Hizbullah were hijacking
planes and saying, "Release our comrades or we blow up the planes and
passengers--but first let's talk about it" and they talked about it and
the passengers were released (or, later, the plane was boarded and the
hijackers killed).
Eventually it got around that nobody was going to let the perpetrators out of the mess they'd created and hijacking died.
By 2001 we knew--everybody in the world knew--that the Al-Qa'ida people
were different. They didn't just accept death in pursuit of their
cause, they actually incorporated their death in the action of
attacking their enemy--an immense embellishemnt of the old German attentat. We knew this from the Khobar Towers, from the US embassies in East Africa, and from the attack on the USS Cole.
People like this don't take hostages to release their friends, for
God's sake; their friends are on the way to a Better Place, anyway.
So why, with all the evidence that these people WANT to kill themselves
in their cause, all the evidence that the killing of themselves is part
of the point of the operation, could anyone with the brains of a
blowfly come up with the vapid assumption that, this time, it was just
going to be the old PLO "Give us our comrades or let's talk about it?"
This, my friends, is stupidity far beyond criminal. And as a retired
teacher of liberal disposition and often not too bright students, I
baulk at considering stupidity a punishable offence, but this stupidity certainly is. |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by pim on Saturday, April 10 @ 19:57:14 EDT (User Info) | | Let's
cut to the chase. The neo-cons had EIGHT YEARS to get their plans
ready. If you "just can't believe" that they'd do such a thing (allow
an attack, or worse, arrange it), you evidently underestimate their
desire to control the world's oil. The only thing they needed was
"another Pearl Harbor" to unleash their plans for the Middle East. Do
you really think they'd sit around and WAIT patiently for that event? I
don't think so. Read the new Griffin book "The New Pearl Harbor."
Granted, some of the stuff seems murky and unresolved (where are the
investigative reporters?), but it's all too possible. Start connecting
the dots! |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by Fibo on Saturday, April 10 @ 19:54:57 EDT (User Info) | All this mess
All these tragedies
All these injustices
All this pain and suffering
SO
A few little shitty Jews can hold on to their shitty little Israel.
That is what all this comes down to.
Not oil and all those other excuses.
The answer can be found by looking at what benefits Israel...because it sure ain`t benefiting us in US of A.
Take back America |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by metaform3d on Saturday, April 10 @ 17:20:38 EDT (User Info) | "Sadly,
the commission's public hearings have allowed those with political axes
to grind, like Richard Clarke, to play shamelessly to the partisan
gallery of liberal special interests seeking to bring down the
president," Mr. McConnell said. That's truely classic. It almost needs no rebuttal. Except perhaps "takes one to know one," or "sauce for the goose..."
"Some have political axes to grind" against Mr.
Ashcroft, Mr. Corallo said [...] he was offended by Ms. Gorelick's
remarks in particular. If you've got no hope of
defending yourself on the facts, take personal offence. He's shocked --
shocked! -- that anyone would dare question the actions of a
high-ranking goverment official in the performance of their official
duties. It simply isn't cricket!
Stop whining children. It's called accountability, and
though I know you've never heard of it before, it is a required part of
adult life. I know your boy emperor said he didn't have to explain his
actions to anyone, but guess what? He was wrong. |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by blitz1 on Saturday, April 10 @ 14:32:02 EDT (User Info) | Where
IS Bush? I haven't seen him since he made that wildly inappropriate
remark to a woman at some appearance earlier this week that she looked
like she uses the "same hair-dye my mother uses". His handlers must
have snatched him away. He may be cracking under the knowledge that he
has a previously arranged schedule that puts him at Fort Hood, Texas
tomorrow for an appearance. This is the same Fort Hood that lost 7
soldiers this week in the unnecessary and mindless war started by that
same President Bush.
I wonder how far away the area assigned for "free-speech" will be. Maybe miles? |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by superyumancrew on Saturday, April 10 @ 14:22:08 EDT (User Info) |
For months, the F.B.I. had been consumed by internal problems of its
own, including the arrest of an agent, Robert P. Hanssen, on espionage
charges, the disappearance of documents in the Oklahoma City bombing
case and the fallout over the Wen Ho Lee spy case. Moreover, the bureau
was going through a transition in leadership, with its longtime
director, Louis J. Freeh, retiring in June 2001. He was replaced by an
acting director, Thomas J. Pickard, until the current director, Robert
S. Mueller III, took over in September, just days before the deadly
hijackings. All three men will testify at next week's commission
hearings and are expected to face sharp questioning about whether the
F.B.I. did enough to prevent an attack in the weeks and months before
Sept. 11.
It might be more accurate to say that Ashcroft was deliberately leaking
stories critical of the FBI to the press, in order to browbeat the FBI
into submission to him.
The actions of the FBI honchos in denying Rowley's team their search
warrant for Moussaoui's hard drive have never been explained
adequately. Why was headquarters so adamant about not issuing a search
warrant fot Moussaoui's computer, when the agents involved were so
frantic to search it?
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
I once worked for a company whose executives were providing an umbrella
of protection for local drug dealers who they partied with. The drug
dealers could do no wrong. Union reps stood up for them, and made sure
that the drug dealers were treated with every courtesy and got
everything they were entitled to, and more. Drug dealers arrested in
company bars had the white substance they were selling disappear out of
local police property rooms, and went off scot free. There was a
pattern of corruption, in that town. There is a similar pattern of
corruption among the political appointees of the Bush Administration,
IMO.
Rowley's team's investigation of Moussaoui was DELIBERATELY sabotaged.
O'Neill and Clarke and a leigon of other long time terrorism and law
enforcement officials were deliberately blocked, administratively, from
doing their jobs, mostly by Bush family flunkies with past Iran/Contra,
BCCI, or Conservative think tank associations.
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
This is not incompetence, this is malevolent intent.
The lost documents in the Oaklahoma City bombings turned out to be a
few crank letters, which had absolutely no effect on the verdict.
The story about the FBI losing 350 guns is a classic example of "the
quantitative lie" a technique used by Repug propagandists to great
effect- I noticed it at the time, and posted about a few months later
on this board. The lost guns took place in the ENTIRE agency, over a
period of TEN YEARS. If the FBI didn't keep really good records, no one
would be able to tell how many guns they had lost, over a period of ten
years, in the individual actions of perhaps one hundred thousand
people.
Ashcroft was deliberately firing people arbitrarily, for the slightest
sign of resistance to his rule, and terrorizing the FBI in an effort to
create a climate of fear within the agency. Colleen Rowley mentions the
climate of fear generated by extreme congressional oversight in her
letter, and Ashcroft and the Republican congress were deliberately
"kicking ass" within the FBI, apparently to bully the FBI agents into
submission.
The events of 9/11 were deliberately allowed to happen, and may even
have been arranged by U.S. and British intelligence, IMO. Massive
amounts of money was funneled to Osama over the years, much of it being
funneled through people like Khalid Bin Mahfouz, and much of it
seemingly originating from members of the Saudi royal family like
Prince Bandar (sometimes called "Bandar Bush" because of his close
involvement with the Bush family). These Saudis are tied to the Bush
family through the BCCI scandal and through the extensive Bush/Saudi
business and intelligence connections.
One of Osama's close associates was Omar Shiekh, the convicted murderer
of Daniel Pearl, and a man who was revealed to have sent $100,000 to
Mohammed Atta. Sheikh was a British citizen, still has family in
Britain, was a brilliant student at the London School of Economics, and
fits the profile of people that intelligence agencies recruit as spies.
He is a known agent of the Pakistani ISI, so we KNOW that he is a spy.
Why is being a double agent for the British considered so much less
likely than being an agent of the Pakistani ISI? Osama called Shiekh
"my special son", and Shiekh ran one of Osama's training camps in
Afghanistan, and provided much of the electronic and financial
sophistication of Al Quaeda. If Shiekh was a British agent, then the
British, at least, almost certainly had foreknowledge of the attack.
Osama's close mentor and advisor was a different man Sheik Mubarek
Gilani. According to Levy's book "Who Killed Daniel Pearl" Gilani is a
major figure in the 9/11 drama. From CBS's interview with Gilani:
Sheik Mubarek Gilani is the man Daniel Pearl was on the way to meet him when The "Wall Street Journal" reporter was kidnapped.
Gilani is a mysterious figure in the Islamic world. He is said to be a
direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed. But for Pearl two other
things set him apart. First, Gilani along with his followers have
appeared on the State Department’s list of terrorist organizations.
Second, and even more provocative, the sheik has thousands of disciples who live right here in the United States
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/13/60II/main503644.shtml
Gilani's followers have not been harassed, his Islamic communities inside the U.S. have not been closed down.
John Allen Muhammad, the Washington sniper, had transferred from the
Nation of Islam to Gilani’s sect shortly before he began his killing
spree.
If Gilani is working with U.S. intelligence, then people inside the
U.S. almost certainly had foreknowledge of the coming attacks.
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by turk on Saturday, April 10 @ 12:37:45 EDT (User Info) | | I'm George W. Bush and I approved this quagmire! |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in U.S., official says (Score: 1) by madscot (trickster@ruse.net) on Saturday, April 10 @ 12:33:18 EDT (User Info) | While
insisting that he was not speaking personally for Mr. Ashcroft, Mr.
Corallo said he was offended by Ms. Gorelick's remarks in particular.
Offering a detailed preview of Mr. Ashcroft's testimony next week, he
said the attorney general was briefed repeatedly by the C.I.A. and the
F.B.I. on threats posed by Al Qaeda and was told that the threats were
directed at targets overseas. "He was not briefed that there was any
threat to the United States," Mr. Corallo said. "He kept asking if
there was any action he needed to take, and he was constantly told no,
you're doing everything you need to do."
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This is interesting. Evidently the testimony of AshKKKroft is so well
rehearsed that he can provide a "preview" from an aide. Of course it is
easy to preview tesimony when you've been coached in all your lines.
When a story is this well rehearsed one can safely assume that it is,
for the most part false.
He should be asked why, as the flaming bigot that he is, did he
let all those "innocent" Saudis leave the country. They would have been
the ones worth detaining. Instead he designates as "enemy combatents" a
few low level persons after he probably got word from Monkey Boy and
Dickless to make sure no one knew how many for the Saudi royal family
were in the US at the time.
This just reeks of cover up but the media is just too blind to
pursue it. And the freepers wail about a "liberal media"...No wonder we
are so fucked up!
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by Perky on Saturday, April 10 @ 12:15:29 EDT (User Info) | The
conspiracy theory be damned. It is no longer a theory. The evidence is
too great that Bush wanted a terrorist attack to happen, the main
evidence being the expression on his face when he was told of the WTC
attack. Without 9/11 Bush would never have gotten the standing ovation
he received when he entered the House to address congress with his
tough talk about fighting terrorism, or the great increase in his
popularity rating. Without 9/11 he would not have congress rush
approval of the Patriots Act, or giving him war time powers with very
little debate. He would not have been able to rush through with his
disastrous war in Iraq. He would not have been able to realize his
greatest fantasy that of being a war president which neither Lincoln,
nor Wilson, nor FDR nor Truman claimed to be. His boy genius, Karl
Rove, is too smart to leave any evidence of a smoking gun. Why has Bush
been stonewalling the 911 Commission if he has nothng to hide, or
insisting on tesiimony before the Conmission with Cheney at his side
neither one being required to take an oath to tell the truth. A
majority of Americans believe that George W. Bush and Karl Rove would
not do such a thing for political gain.
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by DemWoman on Saturday, April 10 @ 12:12:17 EDT (User Info) | "A
similar accusation against the commission was also leveled by Senator
Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican with ties to the White House, in
a speech on the Senate floor Thursday.
'Sadly, the commission's public hearings have allowed those with
political axes to grind, like Richard Clarke, to play shamelessly to
the partisan gallery of liberal special interests seeking to bring down
the president,' Mr. McConnell said."
Oh please............THIS from the party that spent every
waking minute for 8 years trying to bring down Clinton (and probably
only because he had beaten Bush's daddy)????? And, they were quite open
and above board about it....well, after a while when it became so very
obvious they were.
There are sometimes that I think we need to just charge forth and be
open about being totally anti-Bush--why not? They set their own
standards and lowered the bar!! But then, that takes away all the
corruption that the Bush cadre has performed, and allows the Repigs to
counter with the fact that we're out to "get" Bush because they were
out to "get" Clinton. Sort of diminishes the whole thing to an
elementary schoolyard confrontation.
When Ashcroft appears before the commission next week, someone needs to ask him just when it was that he was advised not to fly commercial airlines and why was that advice given.
The thing that really bugs me about this, and I'm sure it is on purpose
is that the WH puts out so many stories that it is hard to keep them
straight. I'm sure they're counting on mass confusion to save their
butts from being caught with their pants down. Sort of like an
obstetrician I used to know--when a patient would ask him what he
thought she was having, he would tell her a "boy" and then write down
on her prenatal sheets a "girl". When she delivered, if she had a boy,
she'd gush all over him, telling him he was right, and all he had to do
was to cross out the "girl" from the prenatals. If she had a girl and
pooh-poohed him for guessing a boy, he'd produce the prenatal sheets,
where he had already written "girl" and tell her she had heard him
wrong. He would really try to guess the gender, but would write down
opposite of what he had told the woman or couple, so he was never
perceived as being wrong. This has become the Bush mode of
operations--they can always pick one of their "official" words as
right. UGH. :-(
DemWoman
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by tom_bldr on Saturday, April 10 @ 11:33:52 EDT (User Info) | I've
posted this hereabouts before, but if you haven't acted, please
consider it now. We've got to strike on this while the iron is hot, and
before organ grinder Cheney and his little monkey appear privately
before the 911 commish; followed by whitewash shills Kean and Hamilton
publicly gushing about how helpful Cheney's full cooperation has been.
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9/11: Americans Sacrifice, Bush Doesn't
President Bush told Tim Russert that he's held in low esteem by many
because, "when you do hard things, when you ask hard things of people,
it can create tensions." Americans are asked to accept that 9/11
changed everything. Every ordinary American has made profound
sacrifices of life, limb, and civil liberty, all framed by 9/11.
Patriot Act/Patriot Act II have chipped away at our sacred Constitution
and Bill of Rights. Military families are stretched, stressed, and
tragically broken. If the Bush Administration remains in power after
November, a military draft will be imminent.
States and localities teeter on bankruptcy, as tax revenues are slashed
and national resources are redirected towards the "war on terror." Our
grandchildren will still be paying down this record deficit. Big-Oil,
Big-Defense, and Big-Intelligence have all benefited mightily from
9/11, despite the later group's spectacular failures around 9/11. Bush
intends to center his campaign around his leadership on all things
9/11.
Yet, the independent commission investigating 9/11 has been resisted,
underfunded, stonewalled, and undermined at every turn by the Bush
Administration. Now, they've "negotiated" Bush and Cheney's meeting
with the 9/11 Commission together (preventing divergent answers),
privately, not under oath, with only two handpicked Commissioners.
BushCo explains this stingy compromise in the search for the truth by
"Executive Privilege" & Constitutional Separation of Powers; the
same sacred Constitution which every American has learned is negotiable
by "the day which changed everything." We also learn that the
Commission's final report, expected in July, will first be vetted line
by line by the White House, released to the public only after they've
omited findings as they unilaterally see fit. All this, on the American
taxpayer's dime.
Did 9/11 change everything, or didn't it? Is this the conduct of a true
leader with nothing to hide? Self-proclaimed "War President" Bush must
join every American in sacrifice. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Card, Rove,
and other administration principals must step up to the plate and
testify under oath before the 9/11 Commission, publicly &
separately, without further delay or compromise.
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I've written the above letter, sent it to both my Senators ('pugs!) and
my Rep (D), and I've shotgunned it to the editor of every rag in my
region.
We know CheneyCo is dirty on 9/11. We've also seen them cave in on
every point once the public noise level reaches a certain point
(deadline extention, Rice testifying). Public noise around the 9/11
investigation are kryptonite to this regime, and it's striking how
quickly they move to shut it up when it emerges. The 9/11 coverup is
their biggest liability, bar none. I think the above "Americans
sacrifice, Bush doesn't" approach is the most effective imaginable--
truth of it not withstanding. They're on the ropes, and we need to keep
swinging hard.
Please take action... this'll take you 5 -10 minutes, maybe?
Step One: Go to http://www.house.gov and copy/paste the above letter to your Rep. Edit/personalize it as you see fit.
Step Two: Go to http://www.senate.gov and copy/paste the above letter to both of your Senators. Edit/personalize it as you see fit.
Step Three: Plug your nose, and go to http://www.georgewbush.com/GetActive
and enter your zip code, press "Get Info", and then under your
newspapers, press "Get a full list and contact your editors now." Use
this webform to copy/paste the above letter for shotgunning to all your
papers.
Don't enter "fake" personal info for any of the above, as Congressional
staffers will check that you're a constituent, and editors always first
contact letter writers to verify authenticity before printing letters.
Step Four: Paste this post into any other blogs etc. This is a
precious, finite window of opportunity we have here. We can network on
this and really make a grass roots public fuss. So use your imagination
and broadcast this message however you can.
I don't seriously believe that CheneyCo will cave anywhere near what
the letter urges, but we will definately raise public awareness and
anger on the issue, this will further smash away at CheneyCo's glass
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We got it right here at the Chimp (Score: 1) by Roger_Overnout (Roger@shutupandance.com) on Saturday, April 10 @ 11:23:50 EDT (User Info) | | My BUSH KNEW tee shirt from smirkingchimp is suddenly more relevant than ever. |
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Re: Of course he knew: Bush was warned of possible attack in (Score: 1) by GZeus on Saturday, April 10 @ 11:08:08 EDT (User Info) | This
points out the danger of having a patsy, dupe, or figurehead in charge
of things. Having Dubya "in charge" is the same thing as having a
chair, a doorknob, or a toddler in charge -- there's no one making
decisions.
Whenever I hear a commercial that says "I'm George W. Bush and I
approve this message" I have to laugh. He's a few bricks short of a
load. His elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. The lights aren't
on, and no one is home.
The real investigation needs to center on Regent Cheney and the inner
circle. They are the war criminals who need a one way ticket to The
Hague. |
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