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Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads'
Posted on Thursday, January 08 @ 10:10:57 EST
By Dave Lindorff, CounterPunch
You can tell that the Republican Party is more worried than it lets on
about the upcoming November election. The shrill attack on the
MoveOn.org organization, which the Republican National Committee is
accusing--incorrectly and dishonestly--of endorsing two sample
political ads which draw comparisons between Hitler and George Bush,
demonstrates how much the Bush brain trust fears this remarkably
successful populist internet-based organization.
The two ads were actually among some 1000 that were submitted as part
of a contest established by MoveOn to come up with strong ads for the
2004 Democratic campaign. They, along with over 1000 others, were
submitted to Move.On for consideration. The organization put them all
on its website and allowed members to vote for the best. A group of 15
30-second submissions which received the most votes were then posted as
finalists.
Neither of the controversial Hitler/Bush ads made that cut, but the RNC
went ahead and issued press releases, as well as sending RNC Chairman
Ed Gillespie rushing over to Fox TV, to denounce MoveOn for presumably
insulting Bush and American Jews.
MoveOn's
Eli Pariser has responded to this GOP assault explaining that clearly
the organization never endorsed those ads, and that its membership
obviously rejected them. Further, he says MoveOn "regrets the
appearance" of the two ads on the MoveOn website, where they were
briefly available for viewing along with all the other submissions
initially (they've been removed now). Interestingly, now that those ads
have been pulled by MoveOn, the only place the scripts can be read is
on the RNC website (http://www.rnc.org/moveonvideo.htm).
But Pariser shouldn't be so quick to express his regrets. The truth is
that the two ads are pretty darned good. The first shows Hitler in a
parade and speaking, followed by scenes of German troops attacking,
planes bombing, tanks firing, and victorious troops goose-stepping into
occupied territory, as a voiceover says "A nation warped by lies--lies
fuel fear--fear fuels aggression--invasion--occupation." As the scene
fades from Hitler giving a raised arm salute to Bush with his hand
raised at his inauguration, the voiceover says, "What were war crimes
in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003."
And the truth: The Bush administration deliberately stoked public fears
after 9/11--just as the Nazi's used the Reichstag Fire--to win support
for an illegal, unprovoked invasion of Iraq, an act of aggression
which, at the Nuremberg Trials, was specifically determined to be a war
crime. The ad might have added that the "shock and awe" terror campaign
that was the centerpiece of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, was also by
definition a war crime, since its target was the Iraqi public.
As for the second controversial ad, it features first a picture of
Hitler, speaking in German, with a voiceover translating the lines as
"We have taken new measures to protect our homelandSI believe I am
acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." Then, as
Hitler continues to speak, the voiceover says, "God told me to strike
Al-Qaeda, and I struck him." As the picture morphs into George Bush,
the voiceover continues, "Sand then He instructed me to strike at
Saddam, which I did." With a picture of cheering Germans in the
background, the voiceover concludes, "Sound familiar?"
And the truth here? President Bush did in fact publicly claim divine
instruction to have been behind his decisions to invade Afghanistan and
later Iraq--a rather scary example, if he is being sincere, of the very
kind of megalomania that characterized Hitler.
Were these two ads unfair to either Bush or to the memory of the Holocaust? Hardly.
They were legitimate warnings that the American public is being manipulated by demagoguery, jingoism and the worst kind of lies.
Are they saying that Bush is Hitler? Only to the most simplistic or
willfully unimaginative of viewers--that is to say the RNC poobahs.
What they are saying is that the same technique used by Hitler and his
National Socialist brownshirts to whip up nationalist fervor in Germany
in the early and mid 1930s is being employed today by the Bush
Administration and the Republican Party, and to the same end--to get
the American public to acquiesce in surrendering its democratic rights,
to accept one-party rule, and to agree to a national policy of
permanent war in the name of American global hegemony.
Obviously the MoveOn crowd was repelled by the bluntness of the two
ads, and rejected them, but Pariser needn't apologize for inspiring
their creation.
Both, in their way, are sadly prophetic.
Pariser and MoveOn should be proud that they were produced, happy that
the RNC is helping to circulate them, and encouraged that the
Republicans are making such a fuss about the whole thing.
Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into
the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal. A collection of Lindorff's
stories can be found here: http://www.nwuphilly.org/dave.html
Reprinted from CounterPunch:
http://www.counterpunch.org/
lindorff01062004.html
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by helios on Thursday, January 08 @ 10:20:53 EST (User Info) | |
The truth hurts , doesn't it ? RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie wouldn't want
anybody to get the right idea about his fascist party , now , would he
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by peglyn61 on Thursday, January 08 @ 10:23:41 EST (User Info) | | 2 phrases come to mind: "If the shoe fits", and "Me thinks they doth protest too much". |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by xdbx on Thursday, January 08 @ 10:58:11 EST (User Info) | | Never apologize for the truth. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by carlyle2 on Thursday, January 08 @ 11:05:25 EST (User Info) | | you
can bet your boots that moveon.org is encouraged. the truth is
self-evident and pariser did exactly the right thing - apologized and,
one hopes, planned to do it again. some friends told me that the ad had
gone too far, and that they were shocked (shocked!). i told them to
think again - the ad has not gone too far, it's spot on. spread the
word, chimpsters! don't let america turn into the third reich!!! |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by AntiSpin on Thursday, January 08 @ 11:09:02 EST (User Info) |
I think that MoveOn.org could have turned this back on the Repugs, but they missed their chance. Here's the email I sent them.
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Unfortunately, in my opinion your press release will serve only to keep this issue alive, and you on the hot seat.
The way to deal with a problem like this is not to go through all the
verbiage of "none of these was our ad, nor did their appearance
constitute endorsement . . .etc"
That kind of wordy response just gives the Repugs more to quibble about, and to attack, and makes you look defensive.
Here's what I would have written:
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"Two ads rejected by Moveon.org were brought back to life yesterday by
the Republicans, who claimed falsely that a resemblance between George
W. Bush and Adolph Hitler is being promoted by us.
If the Republicans want to go on publicizing the alleged resemblance
between Bush and Hitler, that's their business. Frankly, we would never
think of doing so, and that's why we rejected those two ads."
That's how to handle sleazy attacks like this. Turn it back on them. Use "political judo."
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by LouLost (secretboyfriend@thefirsttwins.com) on Thursday, January 08 @ 11:13:58 EST (User Info) | If
you want to talk about onerous comparisons, how about Grover Norquist
telling Terry Gross that the estate tax is the moral equivilent of the
Holocaust on "Fresh Air?"
See Richard Cohen's op-ed in the WP earlier this week. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by BajanMan on Thursday, January 08 @ 11:54:23 EST (User Info) http://communities.msn.com/PlanetStahl | But Pariser shouldn't be so quick to express his regrets. The truth is that the two ads are pretty darned good.
I agree totally. Don't be cowed.
I saw the 'Moveon.org' ads comparing Bush to Hitler, and think they're
brilliant, and powerful in showing the parallels- even in a 30s span.
However, I also figured they'd be denounced as 'hate speech' because:
a) the average dimwit, PR-pussified American consuming sheep doesn't know German history, far less his or her own.
So doesn't know the parallels - e.g. of the Reichstag fire to 9-11, or
repealing the 'Seven Freedoms' to the 'Patriot Acts', or invading
Poland (in 1939 - using the pretext of 'preventive war' to invading
Iraq)
b) The average American - especially many younger ones - are too caught
up and ensnared in PR & consumption to see how their own
brains-minds are programmed by the manipulators.
Not only to censor their own thoughts, but to come after the rest of us
as well - acting as zombie surrogates for the PR purveyors.
Of course, what iced the Moveon.org ad rejection here was the
intervention of Jewish groups like the ADL etc. where they really had NO
business. The ads were not about them, or anything to do with them or
denying the holocaust, they were comparing Bush to Hitler.
By complaining about any ad or display, or protest the interject Hitler, they're basically censoring anything with Hitler on that basis alone. Hence - exlcuding it from viable protest speech.
This hurts their own cause - since it (in the end) makes people less
liable to see the course of history repeating- e.g. with any number of
"new Hitlers".
The Jewish groups did the same thing here in Colo. a couple months ago,
when 2 HS students- protesting the forced pledge of allegiance (every
Colo. student must say it under a state legislature edict) did a fake
'Seig Heil' in front of the school one day.
A very apt demo - non-violent - but the Jewish groups entered in,
obfuscating the issues - merely because the students evoked the same
fascist elements from Hitler's Germany. (Which - obivously - have the
greatest, most effective impact and statement potential).
But this shows the extent to which vigorous demonstration is now
inveighed against - taking away large dimensions of the right to free
speech.
Before you know it, they will be outlawing even protest signs that are
the least bit negative - calling them 'terorist' or some stupid fucking
thing.
A real tragedy in how this nation has descended to the pits of
infantilism. But most of us could see it coming for years, as the
consumer ethic gradually eroded and then replaced the citizen ethic.
Replacing adult speech (which must include so called passionate
polemic) with infantile "speech" emblazoned under the banner of the
"mindless happy".
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[ To reply to this message, you must first logon or register ]Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by DrLaniac on Friday, January 09 @ 00:47:16 EST (User Info) | quote:
Before you know it, they will be outlawing even protest signs that are
the least bit negative - calling them 'terorist' or some stupid fucking
thing.
Yup, they're working on it. From the "Free Speech Zones" to the gestapo
tactics (whoops, am I gonna get in trouble for that?) against
protesters at the FTAA meeting in Miami, political speech that's not
sufficiently right-wing is being outlawed.
The Miami Model: homeland security targets political protest. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by hmmrhd (goaway@leavemealone.com) on Thursday, January 08 @ 12:05:13 EST (User Info) http://www.editorialsinc.com | | Ya,
but here's a problem: The ads were spot on. Bush is the intentional and
political heir to Hitler. His grand-dad made a fortune by working Jews
and other undesireables to death in Silesia starting in 1939 and going
on as late as 1942, when he was threatened with prosecution under the
Trading with the Enemy act. The whole "war on terror" could have been
taken out of Hitler's play book. It is unfortunate that Americans are
generally too blind and cowardly to openly recognize and discuss it. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by ChimpChips on Thursday, January 08 @ 12:07:04 EST (User Info) http://www.celebsoncels.com | I just do not understand what it happening in America any more.
The fascists keep handing any reasonable thinking human bean so much
material that said human bean should be able to hammer the fascists
and/or their ideologies and/or their plans and/or their deceitfulness
and/or their sloppiness until said person's arms are so weak that
lifting the next fascist press release is a burden.
But no that don't happen as the "middle of the road" liberalism kicks
in and scurry, scurry, sorry, sorry and we will try to do better next
time.
ChimpChips {the election my ass} |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by RoseQuartz on Thursday, January 08 @ 12:19:16 EST (User Info) | I don't think these ads are offensive. I think they raise important issues about the fascist tendencies of this administration.
Fear, propaganda, one-party rule, the assault of civil liberties, these
are the things that this administration has in common with the Third
Reich.
Pre-emption was a Nazi policy used to justify the invasion of Poland.
Poland was not a threat and neither was Iraq. The lack of WMD is
absolutely conclusive. The lie of "Iraqi Liberation" equals any big lie
of the Third Reich. The lie of Iraq and 9/11 is also in the same league
of lies.
Iraqis are rounded up in the middle of the night and sent to the same
prisions where Sadam put them, never to be heard. American citizens are
put in jail under the same conditions. Today it's terrorists, how long
before the dissenters are jailed? Patriot Act II is enacted behind
closed doors with no national debate. Is this the behavior of a
democracy or a fascist government?
MoveOn should not apologize. I think it is important that the public
understand where the Bushites are leading us. Social Mass Denial
contributed to the eventual destruction of Germany. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by Citizen_X on Thursday, January 08 @ 12:25:52 EST (User Info) | "Typical
of the East Coast-intellectual academic-homosexual loving-liberal media
elite! We should put copies of all these videos, and all the books by
the elitists, together into a big pile and BURN them! That'll teach 'em
to compare us to Nazis!"
I'm glad they made a big to-do about this. It gets the comparison
bouncing around there in the noosphere:
"Hmmm...Bush...Hitler...Bush...you know, there are some parallels there..." Thanks, wingnuts!
On another tack, wouldn't it be great if some right-wing equivalent
("BringEmOn.org"?) did a similar contest? Imagine the rat's nest of
loony-tune ideas that would emerge: "God
is leading George Bush to victory in the Final Battle against Satan,
and libruls are standing in His way" "Bill Clinton had Vince Foster
murdered, and Hillary helped cover up the crime against her secret
lover!" (you know that half of 'em would be obsessing about the Clintons) "the UN has 50,000 guillotines stored in a warehouse in New Orleans, ready for use against American patriots"
(I actually HEARD that last one on a wingnut radio show once! Some
preacher broadcasting from Roswell, NM--must be the Alien influence.) |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by regular_joe3_0 (veryPissedOff@theChimp) on Thursday, January 08 @ 13:44:37 EST (User Info) | Sadly,
the moveon.org commercials comparing Smirk to Hitler are closer to the
truth than a professional liar like RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie would
ever admit. Instinctively, he employed a standard wingnut debating technique called Homer-the-Trollism, i.e. accusing your opponents of bigotry for merely noting your far-fetched, divisive, and perhaps racist tactics and platform.
The modern Republican party has become a kinder, gentler version of
their ideological founding fathers, the NAZIs. The fact that Smirk used
the same basic tactics to start his war that Hitler used to start World
War II is manifest to all but the most obstinate and self-deluded Smirk
apologists (like Gillespie). But, as the designated Smirk apologist on
the scene, it was Gillespie's job to control the damage and, quite
naturally, he's willing to use every trick in the book to prevent the
public from reaching to obvious conclusion that Smirk is a lot closer
to Hitler than most American's would like to think.
Of course, to the far-right wingnuts that Smirk must placate on a daily
basis just to keep his job, Hitler is considered a moderate. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by grantly on Thursday, January 08 @ 15:29:07 EST (User Info) | | I'm
not so sure the comparison of Bush and Hitler is entirely fair. At
least the Germans got the autobahn and the world got the Volkwagen to
show for their troubles. What's Bush's legacy to the world going to be? |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by metaform3d on Thursday, January 08 @ 15:43:50 EST (User Info) | | Wingnuts
like Coulter, Rush or Savage never apologize for -- let alone
acknowledge -- the blantant offensiveness of their remarks. Instead
they scream "free speach" and hide behind their statements being "only
an opinion" and "for entertainment purposes only." I never see the RNC
wringing their hands over that. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by Auntiecyn on Thursday, January 08 @ 15:49:45 EST (User Info) | | Unfortunately
you can't un-apologize. When I first heard about this I jumped for joy.
Move-on has arrived. Yes, they are a force to be reckoned with. It was
dumb of the RNC to call them to the attention of even more people but
it may have been a good thing to apologize. One more day of free
publicity. Let's discuss the organization for a few more days. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by nemo on Thursday, January 08 @ 16:06:52 EST (User Info) | A little math is in order:
We are told, over and over and over again, 6 million Jews perished. But
30 million died in the European Theater, alone. Seems like it's
politically convenient to forget Hitler's goons had been killing mental
patients, gays, trade unionists, Gypsies, Commies, Socialists, and just
about anybody who stood up to his thugs long before he began the 'Final
Solution'; The Wannsee Protocol wasn't initiated until 1942. The murder
of mental patients began almost as soon as Hitler came to power.
Nobody seems to remember that...or those other victims. Were their
murders any less notable? Was their slaughter any less morally
repugnant?
But one-fifth to one eighth of Hitler's victims get 100% of the
attention...as if they were the only ones to suffer Nazi savagery.
Now, flash forward to 1967, and the USS Liberty. The
Israelis, with a viciousness worthy of a Nazi blitzkreig, attacked a
clearly marked US Naval vessel in international waters, machine gunning
the survivors of their first attack and followed it up with one more.
Israel has never provided a credible explanation for that.
Sorry, but as far as I am concerned, it's long past time to face the
facts; Israeli gunboats and aircraft behaved as dastardly as any Nazi Kriegsmarine or Luftwaffe force would have.
Towards the military personnel of the nation largely responsble for
Israel's continued existence, sending them 15 Billion dollars last
year...and at a time when US taxpayers, down on their luck courtesy of
Herr Busch's Korporate Krook friends sinking the economy, are told by
that same overly generous government that there was no money to fund
continued unemployment benefit payments.
Maybe the rumors about the Mossad having dirt on Georgie are true,
after all. What else could explain this gross favoritism towards
another nation at the expense of our own citizens?
And to those who are right now filling their lungs to deliver a
reflexive, knee-jerk "Anti-Semite!" blast of bile, please note: I
mentioned nothing about religion,
only governments. Let some fool enter the arena dragging that rotten,
stinking dead horse along behind them, as I refuse to be gulled by this
nonsense anymore. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by LiberalinIdaho on Thursday, January 08 @ 17:08:04 EST (User Info) |
Well this is a HOT topic today on the right winger air waves especially
here in the reddest of red states. No one can stand that the evil left
wing radical rabble at MoveOn.org are attacking Saint George.
But I got this tongue in cheek letter to the Editor published in the Boise Idaho Statesman newspaper today:
Bush and Hitler
Itīs absurd to compare Bush to Hitler. I mean, Hitler used the burning
of the German parliament building to declare a “war on terrorism.”
He wasn’t even elected to office. He didn’t win a majority of the vote
and was installed in office anyway. After the terrorist attack, Hitler
railroaded his legislature into signing a decree that suspended
constitutional guarantees of free speech, privacy and habeas corpus.
After that, the German police could intercept mail, wiretap phones;
imprison suspects without charges and sneak into people’s homes without
warrants. I totally fail to see the comparison to President Bush.
Hitler was really an evil man. He had total control of the radio and
the newspapers. Hitler’s people were told only positive things about
him and his government. He didnīt allow any criticism of his policies
and if anyone tried to say something negative, they were called an
unpatriotic traitor. That could never happen in America with President
Bush.
Hitler even gave his political supporters in German industry lucrative
government contracts to build detention camps and military
installations. Mr. Bush would never do something like that either. The
people who are comparing Bush to Hitler just need to get their facts
straight.
I'm sure the sarcasm will be lost on the dimmer Repugs...
I personally think the controversy is great publicity for MoveOn's add campaign and I also think apologies are unnecessary.
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[ To reply to this message, you must first logon or register ]Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by blitz1 on Thursday, January 08 @ 18:22:55 EST (User Info) | | You are an educated, well-informed and very articulate person. Great comments! |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn (Score: 1) by unweird on Thursday, January 08 @ 23:22:07 EST (User Info) | Nice job, here's the link:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/Opinion/letters/story.asp?ID=57916&S=137 |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by leftofcentered on Thursday, January 08 @ 17:50:58 EST (User Info) | Substantively
speaking, Ed Gillespie's reflexive yelping amounts to nothing more than
so much dishonest, simpering cowardice. Truth is, Bush's neocon puppet
masters and RNC hacks represent a revolutionary force incapable of
countenancing even the slightest element of public dissent.
Sadly and for the foreseeable future, their complete monopoly of the
corporate media landscape affords them the ability to open up a whole
can of clusterfuckery on virtually anyone who dares speak out against
them, whether in poor taste or not. This also makes it extraordinarily
difficult for anyone being subjected to such a barrage to avoid the
temptation to seek the cover of an apology, warranted or not.
I really feel for Pariser, Boyd and the rest at MoveOn. They're clearly
committed to doing the right thing by offering up an alternative to the
prevailing ideological monoculture and are taking some nasty lumps in
the process. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by brainchannels on Thursday, January 08 @ 18:34:18 EST (User Info) | All you have to do is type in Bush Hitler in Google and you come up with a ton of links.
There is one page dedicated to the best links relating to the evidence
of Bush family ties with Hitler's Nazi regime -- relevant. Some of the
other links are better than others.
Check them out:
Bush's Links to Hitler's Regime (family Nazi ties, etc.) |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by brainchannels on Thursday, January 08 @ 22:22:15 EST (User Info) | Here
is a very well done Flash movie that gives a lot of information related
to the Bush family's investments in Nazi Germany and in a company named
Farber that built 40 concentration camps.
If that's not a direct Hitler link, I don't know what is!
Informative Bush/Hitler Flash Movie - on TakeTheMediaBack.com |
[ To reply to this message, you must first logon or register ]Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by rough1 on Thursday, January 08 @ 23:47:54 EST (User Info) | excellent animation, although it moves a bit too fast to take everything in.
ya need to watch it a couple of times. great work! |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by kevstermon on Thursday, January 08 @ 23:20:31 EST (User Info) | | George Bush has got a ways to go before he can be compared to Hitler. He's made a good start though. |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by MrTattieHeid on Thursday, January 08 @ 23:29:23 EST (User Info) | | So who's being "politically correct" now? |
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Re: Dave Lindorf: 'RNC plays the Hitler card: MoveOn shouldn't apologize for ads' (Score: 1) by nemo on Friday, January 09 @ 09:41:40 EST (User Info) | Something else to keep in mind:
The OSS at the end of WW2 brought Nazi war criminals by the boatload
into the US, ostensibly to help the US with the information thay had
gathered about the Soviet Union. The name of the plan was Operation Paperclip
Google search stream: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=operation+paperclip
This was done at the behest of John Foster Dulles, who later became
chief spymaster of the CIA - Poppy Bush's old hangout. You remember
Poppy, right? Former head of the CIA? You have to ask how much time
Poppy spent shaking hands with these Nazi monsters his family had
helped create.
As can be seen from perusing these sources, there's some argument as to
just how helpful these 'friends' actually were...and whose goals they
were furthering. It is entirely possible that the inclusion of the
'Gehlen Org' into the intelligence apparatus of the US permanently
infected it with the germ of fascism. And that germ seems to have
spread outwards from the containment vessel it was supposed to reside
in and infected the rest of the body politic. How else to explain some
of the monstrous things the US government has done to it's own citizens
and others around the world?
Lie down with Nazi dogs, get up with facsism-infected fleas...any wonder why America feels so sick? |
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